<TITLE>16. Par 172-186</TITLE>L-172   I just kept looking forward, and I wouldn't pay any attention to her. Directly I thought, "I believe I'll see if she says like the rest of them." I turned around, I thought, "Oh, my! That would quiver me, I know." Cause, I hated to think that. Turned around.

L-173 She said, "Maybe I better explain myself." She said, "I'm an astrologist."
I said, "I thought you was something like that."

L-174 She said, "I'm on my way to Chicago to see my boy who's a Baptist minister."
I said, "Yes, ma'am."

L-175 She said, "Anybody ever tell you you were born under a sign."

L-176 I said, "No, ma'am." I lied to her there, see, and I said... just wanted to see what she was going to say. And she said... I said, "No, ma'am."
And she said, "Doesn't... Hasn't ministers ever told you?"
I said, "I don't have nothing to do with ministers."
And she said, "Uh-huh."
And I said... she--she said to me... I said, "Well..."

L-177 She said, "If I tell you just exactly when you was born, will you believe me?"
I said, "No, ma'am."
And she said, "Well, I can tell you when you were born."
I said, "I don't believe it."

L-178 And she said, "You were born on April the 6th, 1909, at five o'clock in the morning."

L-179 I said, "That's right." I said, "How do you know that?" I said, "Tell this sailor here when he was born."
Said, "I can't."
And I said, "Why? How you know?"

L-180   Said, "Look, sir." She said, when she begin to talk about this astronomy now, and she said, "Every so many years..." Said, "You remember when the morning star come, that led the wise men to Jesus Christ?"

L-181 And I kind of stalled, you know, I said, "Well, I don't know nothing about religion."

L-182 And she said, "Well, you've heard about the wise men coming to see Jesus."
I said, "Yes."
And she said, "Well, what was wise man?"
"Oh," I said, "they were just wise men, all I know."

L-183 She said, "Well, what is a wise man?" She said, "The same thing that I am, an astrologist, 'star gazer' they call them." And she said, "You know, before God does anything in--in the earth, He always declares it in the heaven, and then on the earth."
And I said, "I don't know."

L-184   And she said, "Well..." She called two or three, two... three stars, like Mars, Jupiter, and Venus. It wasn't them, but she said, "They crossed their paths and come together and made..." Said, "There was three wise men that come to meet the Lord Jesus, and one was from the lineage of Ham, and one Shem, and the other one Japheth." And said, "When they met together at Bethlehem, the three stars that they were from... Every person on earth," said, "they have something to do with the stars." Said, "Ask that sailor there when the moon goes out and the heavenly planet goes out, the tide doesn't go with it and come in."
I said, "I don't have to ask him that, I know that."

L-185 And she said, "Well, your birth has something to do with the stars up there."
And I said, "Well, that I don't know."

L-186   And she said, "Now, these three wise men came." And said, "When they three stars, when they... They come from different directions and they met at Bethlehem. And they said they found out and consulted, and one was from the lineage of Ham, Shem, and Japheth, the three sons of Noah." And she said, "Then they come and worshipped the Lord Jesus Christ." And said, "When they departed," said, "they brought gifts and put to Him."


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